What? You mean women might just want to fuck right away instead of playing with my meat? Why would the owners of mindgeek lie to me?
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an update. great. let me check it out.
> Tricia uses healing magic and fire magic.
hold up! a human in warhammer universe cannot practice more than one wind of magic without it causing the spontanous creation of dhar, chaos magic in their body. resulting in their corruption.
this is a serious lore violation.
the wind of fire does have very crude pseudo healing spells... which focus on cauterization rather than actual restoration. It will burn out infection and stop bleeding, but won't actually heal you.
also, there is no such thing as "healing magic".
rather, some winds of magic can be used to heal (at varying level of effectiveness).
Such as the ghyran the green wind (lore of life).
> we have always had the problem of lack of men. so the kingdom has chosen the strategy of training women in magic.
you can't just train any rando you choose at magic. you need to be born with some measure of natural talent and if you are not burned or drowned as a witch, then you will get recruited by the imperial mage college. where you are trained in magic. and eventually possibly assigned to serve a local lord somewhere as a certified college mage.
she later specifies magic runs in her family... but, that won't be the kingdom deciding to train women as spellcasters. it would be every person from her family, man or woman, being sent to the college at swordpoint to learn to control their powers (and be executed if found wanting).
> Janna: I can use all kinds of magic
is jenna an elf?
> Tricia uses healing magic and fire magic.
hold up! a human in warhammer universe cannot practice more than one wind of magic without it causing the spontanous creation of dhar, chaos magic in their body. resulting in their corruption.
this is a serious lore violation.
the wind of fire does have very crude pseudo healing spells... which focus on cauterization rather than actual restoration. It will burn out infection and stop bleeding, but won't actually heal you.
also, there is no such thing as "healing magic".
rather, some winds of magic can be used to heal (at varying level of effectiveness).
Such as the ghyran the green wind (lore of life).
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> we have always had the problem of lack of men. so the kingdom has chosen the strategy of training women in magic.
you can't just train any rando you choose at magic. you need to be born with some measure of natural talent and if you are not burned or drowned as a witch, then you will get recruited by the imperial mage college. where you are trained in magic. and eventually possibly assigned to serve a local lord somewhere as a certified college mage.
she later specifies magic runs in her family... but, that won't be the kingdom deciding to train women as spellcasters. it would be every person from her family, man or woman, being sent to the college at swordpoint to learn to control their powers (and be executed if found wanting).
> Janna: I can use all kinds of magic
is jenna an elf?
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So, I just came across this.
Holy shit that is bad.
First, no matter what you are getting NTRed. You are just choosing which flavor of NTR. The claim it is optional is a blatant fucking lie.
You automatically get defeated by an invincible chaos champion gnoll (beastman)
Your choice are:
A. your 3 female party members whore themselves out to the enemy chaos champion in return for him not attacking the town. (currently 1 will be chosen to give him a blowjob, you can choose to watch or not watch)
B. your personal succubus who is bound to your soul and is literally the only one having sex with you thus far will be whored out to the enemy chaos champion in return for him sparing the town and sparing your 3 party members.
choosing this grows your bond with the succubus. (this option alternates between saying she will "take care of him" and "satisfy his lust". the former suggesting death and the latter explicitly indicating sex.
unlike the other choices, here there is no option to watch the NTR sex scene).
Both options are the MC being cucked.
Furthermore, put aside the cuckoldry issue and look just at the lore and logic.
Lorewise, both choices should be utterly unacceptable to everyone involved.
The MC is a trained monster hunter who should oppose both deals.
The waifus are fucking trained sorceresses. Who should know damn fucking well that chaos is a super STD and that having sex with a chaos champion will fucking infect them chaos, which, as mages, is extremely bad thing. as it would get them possessed by daemons and turn into enemies of the town they are trying to protect.
They are even given time to think about it, so they should have used magic to send a call for aid instead of considering that nonsensical deal.
If your personal succubus actually explicitly killed him instead of becoming his whore, then that would be the non cucked route.
but still extremely forced choice where you are forced to choose between being a cuckold or dealing with daemons.
And a lore breaking one because whoring the sorceresses to him should never having been a possible consideration in the first place
Also, your succubus fucking the gnoll chaos champion will make him even stronger.
so it is also a bad choice in a strategic sense.
Also, the NTR is extremely poorly done. there is very little weight to it due to how little interaction you had with your party mates.
so far in this game you can get a blowjob from a whore.
You fuck the succubus in the pussy.
The 3 team mate so called waifus are treated as your waifus by MC and the game world. but you barely know them and never touched any of them. the only real content they have at the moment is you peeping at the gnoll chaos champion getting a blowjob from the,
To be honest, the personal succubus feels like more of a waifu than the 3 party members designated waifus.
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Witcher universe is far less dangerous than Warhammer's. Monsters are dying out in Witcherverse whereas in Warhammer you have hell trying to break into reality and ratmen creating new evil creatures every week. Look at the old Warhammer tabletop rpgs for pricings they're good books
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I can bend the rules a bit for fucking Chaos stuff it is a porn game after all but Gnoll Chaos Champion? There are no gnolls as far as I remember in Fantasy. Use something like a Fimir instead who do worship Chaos and do fuck and impregnate human women.
Or a beastman
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I am pretty sure it is just a beastman. there are countless types of beastmen really. literally every animal on earth can become a beastman. and then you have crossbreeds since they breed with everything.
But yea, gnoll is a d&d thing. although this specific gnoll has the 8 pointed star of chaos undivided.
Gnolls being described as hyena men in d&d they port over perfectly to whf as... hyena men (generic beastmen)
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Alright. I am going to try to be constructive here.
My own personal dislike for NTR aside, this is just poorly written, so I will be proactive and constructive and suggest exactly how you can fix it in a way which I think will make it better for both sides.
1. while personally will never pursue the NTR path, I am able to recognize the NTR currently is bad for NTR fans because it lacks impact.
you simply had so little interaction and relationship with the designated waifus.
You jumped the gun and introduced it far far too early.
You need to actually spend time to build a relationship first to evoke cuckoldry feelings to give NTR fans their hit.
2. if you intend for the NTR to be really be optional like you claim. Then that means you should NOT whore out your personal succubus lover to "prevent" NTR. I don't care that "she is a succubus, she must have a huge body count". right now she is bonded with YOU the MC, and as such her being whored out by you is explicitly netorase.
To be more specific and suggest exact specific scene changes:
A. You should delay meeting the gnoll king for now. Let the MC skirmish with gnoll underlings for now. Temporarily disable the current scenes with the gnoll king. While developing the relationships with the waifus.
B. let player choose whether to deepen bond with succubus or exorcise her based on her own merits rather than forcing it upon the player as a means of NTR avoidance.
C. when the gnoll king thing finally happens. don't have it as a "leave and think about it".
it makes no bloody sense. instead have it happen as a snap decision on the spot, an optional one, and one that only makes sense in a corrupt path with the aid of the succubus.
D. allow an actual pure path. where you neither succumb to daemons nor to NTR.
> Your faith is pure and strong.
> You feel a great upsurge of certainty in [god]. You brandish [holy symbol] which emits a burst of light
> the glowing wards surrounding the enemy dim under the light of your faith
> Your party members do not miss that opportunity, and roast him to a crisp.
E. in the corrupt path where you deepen your relationship with the succubus, have a choice between [corrupted harem] and [corrupted NTR] paths and make it an actual in character choice that is not forced.
but is based on your personal fetishes. You are being tempted by a SUCCUBUS.
she should be appealing to your fetishes. She should be trying to tempt you with harem or netorare based on your own desires.
More explicit examples:
> Succubus: darling, you are so lucky to have me on your side
(ideally because you have been choosing to deepen the bond with her previously. but I guess you can also do it as a snap choice between "weak faith" and "strong faith".).
> "Your bonded succubus shows you vissions, tempting you with your deepest sexual desires. The most appealing of which is:
[You see yourself being infused with power. You slay the beast, and then conquer your party (Harem Route)]
[You see an aura of lust covering the battle. Enemies and allies alike are inflamed with lust. The enemy champion offers a lewd compromise (NTR Route)]
It is worth noting that pure route and corrupt harem have a lot of overlap. mostly differing in dialog. (and possibly corrupt harem having a few more scenes)
If you really dislike the pure route, you can have it be a non-standard game over. (eg: you quickly get an epilogue about how you were a bastion of purity. and spent many years successfully beating back the forces of darkness. even swearing celibacy. or something)
My own personal dislike for NTR aside, this is just poorly written, so I will be proactive and constructive and suggest exactly how you can fix it in a way which I think will make it better for both sides.
1. while personally will never pursue the NTR path, I am able to recognize the NTR currently is bad for NTR fans because it lacks impact.
you simply had so little interaction and relationship with the designated waifus.
You jumped the gun and introduced it far far too early.
You need to actually spend time to build a relationship first to evoke cuckoldry feelings to give NTR fans their hit.
2. if you intend for the NTR to be really be optional like you claim. Then that means you should NOT whore out your personal succubus lover to "prevent" NTR. I don't care that "she is a succubus, she must have a huge body count". right now she is bonded with YOU the MC, and as such her being whored out by you is explicitly netorase.
To be more specific and suggest exact specific scene changes:
A. You should delay meeting the gnoll king for now. Let the MC skirmish with gnoll underlings for now. Temporarily disable the current scenes with the gnoll king. While developing the relationships with the waifus.
B. let player choose whether to deepen bond with succubus or exorcise her based on her own merits rather than forcing it upon the player as a means of NTR avoidance.
C. when the gnoll king thing finally happens. don't have it as a "leave and think about it".
it makes no bloody sense. instead have it happen as a snap decision on the spot, an optional one, and one that only makes sense in a corrupt path with the aid of the succubus.
D. allow an actual pure path. where you neither succumb to daemons nor to NTR.
> Your faith is pure and strong.
> You feel a great upsurge of certainty in [god]. You brandish [holy symbol] which emits a burst of light
> the glowing wards surrounding the enemy dim under the light of your faith
> Your party members do not miss that opportunity, and roast him to a crisp.
E. in the corrupt path where you deepen your relationship with the succubus, have a choice between [corrupted harem] and [corrupted NTR] paths and make it an actual in character choice that is not forced.
but is based on your personal fetishes. You are being tempted by a SUCCUBUS.
she should be appealing to your fetishes. She should be trying to tempt you with harem or netorare based on your own desires.
More explicit examples:
> Succubus: darling, you are so lucky to have me on your side
(ideally because you have been choosing to deepen the bond with her previously. but I guess you can also do it as a snap choice between "weak faith" and "strong faith".).
> "Your bonded succubus shows you vissions, tempting you with your deepest sexual desires. The most appealing of which is:
[You see yourself being infused with power. You slay the beast, and then conquer your party (Harem Route)]
[You see an aura of lust covering the battle. Enemies and allies alike are inflamed with lust. The enemy champion offers a lewd compromise (NTR Route)]
It is worth noting that pure route and corrupt harem have a lot of overlap. mostly differing in dialog. (and possibly corrupt harem having a few more scenes)
If you really dislike the pure route, you can have it be a non-standard game over. (eg: you quickly get an epilogue about how you were a bastion of purity. and spent many years successfully beating back the forces of darkness. even swearing celibacy. or something)
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Would have liked to check the game out and how the story plays out, but just not a fan of the women in the game who all look like they should be grazing on the plains. best of luck to the dev though.
Finally, we get to an actual sex scene in the game. And it's with an ugly purple demon chick. 
This developer is a jackass. Always wasting these thicc, beautiful, sexy models on handjobs, blowjobs, footjobs and titwanks. Focusing their efforts entirely on the ginormously cringe dick they give the MC. And when we get to the first fuck, the bitch ain't even human.
This developer is a jackass. Always wasting these thicc, beautiful, sexy models on handjobs, blowjobs, footjobs and titwanks. Focusing their efforts entirely on the ginormously cringe dick they give the MC. And when we get to the first fuck, the bitch ain't even human.
By the Emperor's holy balls, what is this Slaaneshi abomination? And why main character stole clothes from Nameless Hero from Gothic?
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>"Optional NTR"
>The only "option" is picking who gets taken by the furry.
Cmon OP.
>The only "option" is picking who gets taken by the furry.
Cmon OP.
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Actually. thinking about it. by this point your relationship with the succubus should have already been solidified. With you being firmly in either the succubus route or the faith route (exorcised)
you should gate this entire event behind having already accepted or rejected the succubus.
have some church interactions.
have some temptation events.
for example, at the start of the game you make a char creation choice between normal dick or huge dick. this could instead start out as:
> You have a dream where the succubus says she blesses you with a bitch breaker.
choices:
A. Immediately run to church and pray for salvation. [normal dick] [+1 faith]
B. At first you dismiss it as a silly dream. But once your dick truly grows you realize it is real and rush over to pray for salvation. [large dick] [+1 faith]
C. You find the idea sexually repulsive. You ask the succubus to not make that change. [normal dick] [+1 succubus]
D. You find this extremely sexy. You feel thankful towards the succubus, this truly is a great blessing. [large dick] [+1 succubus]
To be clear. I think the parts in parenthesis should be visible to the player. explicitly informing them of the consequences of this choice.
Although some devs insist on hiding them. the choice on whether to hide or expose them is unrelated thing.
Another choice point could be when encountering the brothel.
The succubus lure you into the brothel. Where you could gain faith or succubus progress based on choices.
If you go with succubus you should probably get discount. Like, maybe the whore finds you irresistible and will fuck you for free. Heck, you could even become her pimp if you are into that.
Another choice point could be visiting the local church.
plus maybe a few other events. so you could have a well established pool of faith / succubus connection to draw on before ever encountering the gnoll.
Another idea is... instead of making it numeric. make it actual route locking. like so:
A. Immediately run to church and pray for salvation. [normal dick] [pure faith route]
B. At first you dismiss it as a silly dream. But once your dick truly grows you realize it is real and rush over to pray for salvation. [large dick] [pure faith route]
C. You find the idea sexually repulsive. You ask the succubus to not make that change. [normal dick] [succubus route]
D. You find this extremely sexy. You feel thankful towards the succubus, this truly is a great blessing. [large dick] [succubus route]
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Is just the V.03 of the game, your ideas are great indeed, i also think for multiple endings depending on the choices made by the MC, Bad and normal NTR, Bad and Good Corruption, Harem endings, alone endings, and Vanilla 1 girl solo or harem ending even a True ending, the game now is very early for the multiple options this story may go, if i get only one path even having multiple better or worst options in the game it self, then yeah, it will be a bad game with a fake illution of liberty in your decitions.
I hope all your good points and suggestions will be listen and made a game for the taste of all of us.
